Thoughts on the Way Home

Thursday, May 24, 2007

Baptism in the Spirit (pt 2)

I thought it may be helpful to include a few quotes from Robert Reymond and Martyn Lloyd-Jones concerning baptism in the Spirit. This may be helpful in understanding the issue as understood by both sides.

Robert Reymond
"The baptism of the Holy Spirit is the work of the glorified Christ and is tantamount to the Spirit's regenerating work...Luke records four "Spirit-baptisms" or "comings" of the Spirit in Acts – Acts 2, Jews; Acts 8, Samaritans; Acts 10, Gentiles; Acts 19, followers of John – marking by them the strategic steps in the extension of the church and teaching thereby that there is but one church into which all converts are baptized by the same Spirit – whether Jews, Samaritans, Gentiles, or followers of John. In other words, the four "Pentecosts" in Acts as events had revelatory import in the nonrepeatable heilsgeschichtlich. They were intended to teach that there is only "one body and one Spirit-just as you were called to one hope when you were called-one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all" (Eph. 4:4-6), regardless of the human mix within it. Therefore, the "Spirit-baptisms" as events in Acts are not to be viewed as continuing and normative occurrences in the history of the church. The glorified Christ made clear from these heilsgeschichtlich "Spirit-baptisms" that people of all races and social backgrounds are "heirs together, members together, and sharers together" in one church (Eph. 3:6). This being so, there is no further need for the continuance of such revelatory events. But while Luke witnesses to the great truth of the oneness of the people of God by recording these "Spirit-comings," he nowhere expounds their soteriological significance. This exposition is provided by Paul, who does it in one sentence: "For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body – whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free – and we were all given the one Spirit to drink" (1 Cor. 12:13). What Paul means here is that this "Spirit-baptism" - which is the joint act of both the glorified Christ and the Holy Spirit which every Christian has experienced…" (Robert Reymond A New Systematic Theology of the Christian Faith, 764-65)

Martyn Lloyd-Jones
"I take it that is therefore abundantly clear—you cannot be a Christian without having the Holy Spirit in you. But—and here is the point—I am asserting at the same time that you can be a believer, that you can have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, and still not be baptized with the Holy Spirit. Now this is the crucial issue." (Martyn Lloyd-Jones Joy Unspeakable: The Baptism and Gifts of the Holy Spirit, 23)

"All I have been describing (the indwelling of the Spirit –mv) is the work of the Holy Spirit in us, the work of convicting, the work of enlightening, the work of regenerating and so on. That is what the Holy Spirit does in us. But as you notice in the teaching in the first chapter of John's Gospel and which we see so clearly in the preaching of John the Baptist, the baptism of the Holy Spirit is something that is done by the Lord Jesus Christ not by the Holy Spirit. "I indeed baptize you with water…he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost." This is not primarily some work of the Holy Spirit. It is the Lord Jesus Christ's act. … I am suggesting that this is something which is therefore obviously distinct from and separate from becoming a Christian, being regenerate, having the Holy Spirit dwelling within you. I am putting it like this—you can be a child of God and yet not be baptized with the Holy Spirit." (Martyn Lloyd-Jones Joy Unspeakable: The Baptism and Gifts of the Holy Spirit, 23-24)

"What is the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Now there are some, as we have seen, who say that there is really no difficulty about this at all. They say it is simply a reference to regeneration and nothing else. It is what happens to people when they are regenerated and incorporated into Christ, as Paul teaching is 1 Corinthians 12:13: ‘By one Spirit are we all baptized into one body’…Therefore, they say, this baptism of the Holy Spirit is simply regeneration. But for myself, I simply cannot accept that explanation, and this is where we come directly to grips with the difficulty. I cannot accept that because if I were to believe that, I should have to believe that the disciples and the apostles were not regenerate until the Day of Pentecost---a supposition which seems to me to be quite untenable. In the same way, of courses, you would have to say that not a single Old Testament saint had eternal life or was a child of God.” Martyn Lloyd-Jones Great Doctrines of the Bible, chapter 22). This last quote was taken from here.

Later this evening I will be posting a short article Bro. Charles Leiter wrote titled "Baptism in the Spirit". This article is very helpful because he summarizes the position using Scripture. The article is only three pages but it took me a whole afternoon and evening to look up all the Scripture!